You are in for a great chat today with a colleague and friend that I have known in the industry for years now. David Heldreth Jr. is the smartest guy in the room. Not just because we are the only two in the room. He is a patented inventor, research leader, industry watchdog and generous contributor to the industry in so many ways. Today’s conversation is about a new passion for David. This is about his new non-profit “Of the Faith.” As a person who spends a lot of personal time on my own faith journey, this conversation was really interesting to me. Pull up a chair and listen as David and I discuss ancient and modern psychedelic spiritual practices, participation without appropriation, protection of indigenous medicine while expanding access to new seekers. This is a very sober conversation about very psychedelic things. Enjoy the Chat!